Raging Beaver
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Posted - 2013.01.21 20:12:00 -
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These changes sound quite nice, looking forward to testing them. I'm kind of curious how will the ancillary armor thingy work. The new skill is na decent idea, gonna have to learn it quickly... As for the rig penalty change - good idea, seems more logical to have increased grid usage when using a rig improving rep performance. |
Raging Beaver
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Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.22 09:43:00 -
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My view on the plates and changes to them.
IMHO the main problem with the plates isn't their mass addition (and the problems it creates). The fact that you want to reduce the mass of the not-used plate types is not a solution to the problem but rather an incentive to actually start using them. Why don't people use them now? Because they're bloody awful.
Take the 50mm plate for example. The T2 version adds 150 armor hp. Now tell me, why would I waste my lowslot for that? The only way I'd fit this to a ship is if I really had no CPU and Grid to put in anything else but even then, I'd think about putting in an Overdrive or an Adaptive Nano Plating.
The same applies to Shield Extenders - for instance - why would I put an MSE on a Vaga? 1050hp vs 2625 on an LSE, and most Vaga fits use 2 LSE's...
I get the basic idea behind the Armor vs Shield tank - Armor having less raw hp and hp regeneration (of course no passive one, talking reps here) but higher resists, the Shield having lots of raw hp and a huge regeneration but crappy resists.
That being said, higher base resists just aren't enough at times, you need the raw hp, but to do that you need to put the biggest plate around.
This is the shield fitting philosophy being applied to armor. This is why the 1600mm plate, aimed for battleships is being used on cruisers. You CAN fit it without making the fit look ********, it gives a lot more hp, it uses one low slot (remember, we use them for DPS as well, right? If in EFT a 1600 plate will give a similar or better result hp-wise than an 800 plate+additional hardener/rig, guess which one are the people going to use...).
It's a very complicated system and while in theory plates vs extenders should yield similar results, the way they are being used creates the imbalance.
I guess you could try to force people to use the "right size" of the module for a particular ship (either by changing the fitting requirements drastically - creating other problems, or by limiting the number of extenders/plates you can use in a fit to 1 - making the whole thing ridiculous) but we all know It would again end in front of Jita 4-4, shooting the damn monument again. |